Time for another game of “The Grass Ain’t Always Greener.”
I think there is a propensity of casual hockey fans (certainly not the ones reading this blog) to pull the trigger on deals too often. In many cases, a straight one-for-one trade rarely works out, nor marks any significant improvement. I can only think of a few cases where these have worked (Heatley for Hossa), and even those can be debated. To see how this game works, check out our blog on a Thornton for Spezza trade.
I present to you : Filip Kuba vs. Mattias Ohlund
Filip Kuba: 6′5, 226 lbs
Mattias Ohlund: 6′3, 230 lbs
Ohlund is a bit bigger weight wise, but Kuba is taller. Both should play the body more.
Filip Kuba: 32 years old, drafted in 1995
Mattias Ohlund: 32 years old, drafted in 1994
This one is a wash age-wise. Kuba was drafted a year later than Ohlund and played his first NHL career game a year later as well. Ohlund decided to hold out for three seasons before signing, so he loses what we will call Alexei Yashin points here. But Ohlund does have more NHL experience.
Kuba: Drafted 8th round, 192nd overall.
Ohlund: Drafted 1st round, 13th overall.
You have to give this one to Ohlund, seeing as he was the higher pick. But history has shown us that draft position doesn’t mean a thing once the puck has dropped (take, oh I don’t know, Alexandre Daigle and Daniel Alfredsson as an example).
Kuba’s first full NHL season: 2000-01 season- 75 GP, 9 goals, 21 assists, 30 points
Ohlunds’ first full NHL season: 1997-98 season- 77 GP, 7 goals, 23 assists, 30 points
I’m going to go with Kuba here, as this first season was played with the Minnesota Wild; a rather defensive minded team. The points total may be the same, but Kuba also did it in two fewer games. It’s marginal numbers, but stats don’t lie.
Kuba’s post lockout numbers: 292 GP, 30 goals, 103 assists, 133 points
Ohlund’s post lockout numbers: 290 GP, 39 goals, 74 assists, 113 points
Again, the numbers are close, but I have to again give this to Kuba. He has two more games at hand, but 20 points more than Ohlund.
Kuba’s Playoff numbers: 24 GP, 4 goals, 9 assists, 13 points
Ohlund’s Playoff numbers: 42 GP, 8 goals, 17 assists, 25 points
Kuba averages half a point per game. Ohlund averages a bit more. Ohlund’s playoff experience may win him out here, but point totals remain consistent. Call it a slight victory for Ohlund. But expect Kuba to put up some numbers in the playoffs next year. Remember, his playoff experience was in Minnesota- a notorious defensive system- and Tampa, where Dan Boyle took most of the defensive points.
Kuba’s contract: 3 year deal, $3 million per season
Ohlund’s contract: Pending UFA. Made $3.5 million per season
This one goes to Kuba. That half a million is a fourth liner now, and knowing the way the free agent market has worked lately, Ohlund is bound to be overpaid this summer.
So again, who would you do? Save the money and stick with Kuba. You may get more points out of it anyway.
Time for another game of “The Grass Ain’t Always Greener.”
I think there is a propensity of casual hockey fans (certainly not the ones reading this blog) to pull the trigger on deals too often. In many cases, a straight one-for-one trade rarely works out, nor marks any significant improvement. I can only think of a few cases where these have worked (Dany Heatley for Marian Hossa), and even those can be debated. To see how this game works, check out our blog on a Thornton for Spezza trade.
I present to you: Filip Kuba vs. Mattias Ohlund
Filip Kuba: 6′5, 226 lbs
Mattias Ohlund: 6′3, 230 lbs
Ohlund is a bit bigger weight wise, but Kuba is taller. Both should play the body more.
Filip Kuba: 32 years old, drafted in 1995
Mattias Ohlund: 32 years old, drafted in 1994
This one is a wash age-wise. Kuba was drafted a year later than Ohlund and played his first NHL career game a year later as well. Ohlund decided to hold out for three seasons before signing, so he loses what we will call Alexei Yashin points here. But Ohlund does have more NHL experience.
Kuba: Drafted 8th round, 192nd overall.
Ohlund: Drafted 1st round, 13th overall.
You have to give this one to Ohlund, seeing as he was the higher pick. But history has shown us that draft position doesn’t mean a thing once the puck has dropped (take, oh I don’t know, Alexandre Daigle and Daniel Alfredsson as an example).
Kuba’s first full NHL season: 2000-01 season- 75 GP, 9 goals, 21 assists, 30 points
Ohlunds’ first full NHL season: 1997-98 season- 77 GP, 7 goals, 23 assists, 30 points
I’m going to go with Kuba here, as this first season was played with the Minnesota Wild; a rather defensive minded team. The points total may be the same, but Kuba also did it in two fewer games. It’s marginal numbers, but stats don’t lie.
Kuba’s post lockout numbers: 292 GP, 30 goals, 103 assists, 133 points
Ohlund’s post lockout numbers: 290 GP, 39 goals, 74 assists, 113 points
Again, the numbers are close, but I have to again give this to Kuba. He has two more games at hand, but 20 points more than Ohlund.
Kuba’s Playoff numbers: 24 GP, 4 goals, 9 assists, 13 points
Ohlund’s Playoff numbers: 42 GP, 8 goals, 17 assists, 25 points
Kuba averages half a point per game. Ohlund averages a bit more. Ohlund’s playoff experience may win him out here, but point totals remain consistent. Call it a slight victory for Ohlund. But expect Kuba to put up some numbers in the playoffs next year. Remember, his playoff experience was in Minnesota- a notorious defensive system- and Tampa, where Dan Boyle took most of the defensive points.
Kuba’s contract: 3 year deal, $3 million per season
Ohlund’s contract: Pending UFA. Made $3.5 million per season
This one goes to Kuba. That half a million is a fourth liner now, and knowing the way the free agent market has worked lately, Ohlund is bound to be overpaid this summer.
So again, who would you do? Save the money and stick with Kuba. You may get more points out of it anyway.
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Olympic concern?
January 19th, 2010In 2006, the top 4 Western Conference teams all lost in the first round of the playoffs. Of course, 2006 was the last time NHL players took 2 weeks off to play in the Winter Olympics in Turin. Also, 2006 was the last time the Edmonton Oilers made the playoffs… and went to the Stanley Cup finals as one of the biggest underdogs in recent memory.
With the 2010 Vancouver Olympics less than 2 months away, NHL GM’s might be wondering what kind of effects the games will have on their star players and their chances to compete for the Stanley Cup. The potential for burnouts, demotivation, and injuries is very real. And any of those scenarios could have a crippling effect on the top 4 Western teams (as well as other powerhouse Eastern Conference teams like the Washington Capitals and Pittsburgh Penguins).
At the time of writing this article, the top 4 Western Conference teams are the Blackhawks, Sharks, Avalanche, and Predators. Here’s a closer look at the players each team have participating at the Olympics:
It makes you wonder if a Western Conference playoff team with less Olympic-bound players will squeak through each series like the Oilers did in 2006. Perhaps a team like the Calgary Flames (who only have 3 players going – Jarome Iginla, Olli Jokinen, and Miikka Kiprusoff), or even the Phoenix Coyotes (who also have 3 players going – Zbynek Michalek, Sami Lepisto, and Ilya Bryzgalov) could have a better odds in the 2010 Playoffs because of this…
I’m not saying this will or won’t happen. It’s purely speculation. And I’m not suggesting that was the only reason the 2006 Oilers got all the way to the Stanley Cup finals, but it could be a partial explanation why the top 4 Western teams were defeated by lower seeded teams that year. If anything, this probably blurs the line that much more between the top and lower seeds in the West.
With the Western Conference being as tight as it is, the same questions can be asked about Detroit, Los Angeles, and Vancouver. These teams are sending a number of players to the Olympics as well.
While fans can’t wait for the Olympics hockey to get started, I’m sure GM’s across the league are dreading it. Or perhaps they are dreading the impact following the games. At any rate, it will be fascinating to see the effects these Olympics will have on these legitimate Western Conference powerhouse teams. And for a team like Chicago who’s Cup window is small to start with, that’s just another hurdle to climb through in order to meet expectations.
Stay classy, Olympic Western Conference stars.
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